Closing the Gap: A study on the JFSC/NSFS/NFS gaps
Interesting quotes to keep in mind, while you continue reading this thread. Never underestimate the power of psychological warfare combined with a practical application of weaponry.In 1981 it was...
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istobie wrote:And if you want naval gunfire, stick a modern six inch tube on an escort that uses the family of already developed, already tested and already paid for guided and extended range...
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istobie wrote: And if you want naval gunfire, stick a modern six inch tube on an escort that uses the family of already developed, already tested and already paid for guided and extended range...
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It's very possible I dare say - what kind of targets did you have in mind? Ian
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istobie wrote: It's very possible I dare say - what kind of targets did you have in mind?IanHow about troops in the open, spread out over several hundred yards. The six inch shell lands exactly in...
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The question is really why are you trying to shell these targets from some miles offshore when if you are going to war, you have air ?, which can also observe the target immediately before, during and...
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I'm really not a fan of 16" guns being returned to service. I was just pointing out some things in a particular post. I'd go for the navy adopting 155mm army munitions, personally.
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I agree, but I wonder at just how much commonality in actual physical components there can be between land and sea systems to make the disruption and cost worth it. I also wonder what all these super...
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Trouble wrote:I agree, but I wonder at just how much commonality in actual physical components there can be between land and sea systems to make the disruption and cost worth it. I also wonder what...
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Trouble:Yes, I agree. I also agree about the commonality problem. The navy tends to go with highly mechanized systems not appropriate for army use because of their size and weight, and that effects...
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I wonder if the USN would ever adopt an off-shore system, but would probably be better off if it did, considering all the problems with the US ERGM program.
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Trouble wrote: The question is really why are you trying to shell these targets from some miles offshore when if you are going to war, you have air ?, which can also observe the target immediately...
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The Gulf War story is utterly irrelevant. The actions that were deciding the conflict were happening far beyond NGS range. If 4.5"/5" was used in GW2 then that implies it isn't some kind of useless...
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Trouble wrote: I agree, but I wonder at just how much commonality in actual physical components there can be between land and sea systems to make the disruption and cost worth it. I also wonder what...
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Trouble wrote: The Gulf War story is utterly irrelevant. The actions that were deciding the conflict were happening far beyond NGS range. It can't be irrelevent, if it was needed in the first place,...
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You are going to have the aircraft anyway. They aren't there only for CAS. They are much more versatile than guns. A destroyer is much more useful than just a NGS platform. You have to have them, so...
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Funny you should say that, when the Zumwalt class is nothing more than a NGS platform ( and a poor one at that, given that given that the design being built now has lost 2000 tons of displacement,...
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Chopper Greg wrote:Funny you should say that, when the Zumwalt class is nothing more than a NGS platform ( and a poor one at that, given that given that the design being built now has lost 2000 tons...
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Yes, it was irrelevant. Those 16” guns had absolutely nothing to do with the troops getting into theatre, the heavy armoured wing establishing itself and doing the massive left flanking manoeuvre well...
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bgile wrote:You are going to have the aircraft anyway. They aren't there only for CAS. They are much more versatile than guns. A destroyer is much more useful than just a NGS platform. You have to...
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